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[edit] Slimming the sidebar
The sidebar is very tall and requires much scrolling. What would you say about slimming it down to simply listing ongoing events? Starting from the top, the Sudirman Cup is an ongoing event, but the matches aren't. Of course, this would lose information, but it would make it much more navigable and anyone who's interested in the setup of the tournament can just click it. —JAO • T • C 10:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, we don't really need here what matches are happening in the next few days. –Howard the Duck 10:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- What do you suggest exactly? To leave just the competition headline in the "future events"? Such as:
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- Looks like a good solution. —JAO • T • C 19:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- What about events that are due to start within the next 2 days but continue beyond it? How should they displayed in the "upcoming events" section once they also enter the scope of "ongoing events"? See EuroBasket Women 2009, for example--Nitsansh (talk) 22:41, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be listed any differently in "ongoing events" than it was in "upcoming events". Today's games are in the main page anyway, and anyone interested in knowing what games are played tomorrow will hardly be inconvenienced by clicking the tournament link. And once they are ongoing, there is of course no reason to still list them in "upcoming events". —JAO • T • C 04:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] New flagless flag template
{{cc3}}. These can be used here especially for tennis and/or racing blurbs. –Howard the Duck 03:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- The main factor in this issue should be: Which is more recognizable by the common reader: countries' flags or 3-letter codes? I think it's the flags. They were being used long before country codes were introduced. There's also the fact that there is one flag for each country, but not necessarily one 3-letters code... Also, from design point of view, the flags add some colours to this article...--Nitsansh (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- There was some discussion (press page up) (involved you and me) and another (press page up) (comment by User:Zzyzx11) that there were too many flags, or the flags were in inappropriate places. Mostly, I'd add flags on national team results (default) in these formats:
- As a rule, when the flags along with the text, it is generally frowned upon. There was some discussion about the overuse of icons here that's why I asked the flag templates project to come up with a flagless template that used the country data templates.
- Note that {{cc3}} can use full country names: (CHN), (China), (People's Republic of China). Although the primary purpose is to use the TLAs for conformity that all links have 3 letters. –Howard the Duck 16:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- So that means you suggest to use flags for national teams, which mostly have templates that display flag and country name, like
England (cricket), England (football), 
Great Britain (basketball), Great Britain (ice-hockey) etc. and 3-letters code for individual athletes or clubs? like Manchester United F.C. (ENG) or Andy Murray (GBR)...--Nitsansh (talk) 16:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you use the {{cc3|countryname}} template with the full country name,like (United States), it produces the same result as (([[countryname]]) like (United States). What's the benefit of it then?--Nitsansh (talk) 17:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- If the flags are close together such as Manchester United 2-1
Barcelona, it'll appear as the same in format as national teams so in default that should be allowed; however in cases where the flags are now "joined together" by scores, that's where I'd draw the line.
- As for the full country name, I'd ask if the TLA would display automatically whatever the parameter is. For the meantime, a lot of the editors here use the TLAs anyway (out of convenience) so I don't see what's the problem. For now. –Howard the Duck 18:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that flags have their place such as the "Manchester United 2-1 Barcelona" example. This slimmed TLA solution is very nice for many other situations though. When adding shooting results I haven't been particularly satisfied with the over-colourful combinations of {{Gold1}}, {{Silver2}}, {{Bronze3}} and three national flags. I've considered using the {{(1)}} template line for less colour, but they're specifically highway markers and anyway, even in black and white, it feels like too much graphics. So keeping the {{Gold1}} but dropping the flags seems like the best solution there. —JAO • T • C 19:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Month grid (continued from archive)
The problem seems to be the absence of <div> tags.--Nitsansh (talk) 16:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- I fixed it for this month. If anyone has spare time... the problem has apparently started in December 2009, so there are 6 months bach to fix...--Nitsansh (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
The 2009 UEFA Regions' Cup is due to start within the next few days and lasts for about a week. It's only for amateur regional teams but it is an official UEFA tournament, so would it be noteworthy enough to have on this page when it's happening? I don't mind if it isn't important enough or anything to get a mention with everything else on here, and it'll still have a current event note on the top of its article, but I was just wondering. Ը२ձւե๓ձռ17 13:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. –Howard the Duck 03:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Scotland
South Africa add result here
